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Not only did Cheshire police get the door swipe data wrong but analysis indicates that in the case of Baby E they got telephone call log times wrong too. When the events are examined in detail the only possible explanation for discrepancies in the evidence is that calls made to Baby E's father were actually an hour later than the Police and Prosecution stated. Could it be that the calls were logged in GMT and never adjusted for British Summer Time? You wouldn't think that this oversight would be possible but it seems to be the only explanation. (Please note I am in no way critical of Baby E's parents because what they went through is unimaginable) This was crucial evidence because Baby E's mother says she saw blood around her baby's face at around 9pm. She was understandably panicked and after going back to the ward she called her husband who was at home an hour away - the call log showed her call placed at 9.11pm, which was used supporting evidence. But Letby's notes recorded this event as happening at around 10pm and Dr Harkness's notes were recorded at 10.10pm having arrived a little before. The testimony given by Baby E's mother must have had a powerful effect on the Jury as she described horrendous crying (like screaming) from the corridor before entering the room and seeing blood around her baby's mouth. The Prosecution made the extraordinary allegation that Letby had attacked the baby before 9pm causing this bleeding and then sat on the situation for an hour whilst he suffered. In hindsight, the mother thought she had interrupted Letby in the process of murdering her baby, which is too awful to contemplate. It seemed the Jury believed this. After Baby E's condition worsened there was a later call from the midwife to the father logged at 10.52pm telling him "Don't panic, but get over here now." He testified that this call was split between the midwife and his wife, though his wife didn't remember it. From trial reporting of the mother's testimony: She was later told by the midwife and to ring her husband. The midwife called the husband at 10.52pm, telling him to come to the hospital, after the neo-natal rang the maternity ward. But clinical notes recorded that Baby E's condition didn't worsen until after 11pm and it was at 11.30pm that the midwife received the call from the neonatal unit at the time they were preparing to intubate. The midwife's statement from 2019 was read out in court. From trial reporting: "At 11.30pm on August 3 she had a call from the neonatal unit to ask Child E's mother to go down in 30 minutes as Child E had a bleed and required intubating - 'very poorly'. " "At midnight, the midwife stayed with Child E's mother for 10 minutes in the corridor outside the neonatal nursery room." The midwife was called by the neonatal unit at 11.30pm and was with the mother at midnight. The only way to reconcile the call log times with medical & midwife records is to shift the call log times 1 hour forward meaning that the mother's call to her husband was at 10.11pm rather than an hour earlier. Lucy Letby did not wait and do nothing while Baby E suffered but did everything correctly as she was supposed to and told the truth about it. Source of the above information was from the http://tattle.life website and also cross-checked with other trial reporting. https://tattle.life/wiki/lucy-... #LucyLetby
Here I'm focussing on the events later in the evening of 3rd August 2015 including Baby E's mother's 10.52pm call to her husband. From the timeline you can see that the timing of this call is out of sync with other event records but putting it an hour later at 11.52pm would reconcile that. Timeline summary: 1/ Dr Harkness was initially called to Baby E at around 10pm. He told Letby to keep close observation on Baby E, and logged a medical note at 10.10pm. He doesn’t believe he would have left the unit after that. 2/ Dr Harkness was called for the 2nd time at 11pm. He was worried about Baby E’s condition, spoke to the consultant and they decided to intubate. Preparations for this were being made at 11.30pm. The nursing team decided to contact Baby E’s mother who was in the maternity ward. 3/ The midwife received a call from the neonatal unit at 11.30pm asking for the mother to go down She went to ask the mother to contact her husband. 4/ Mother calls her husband and Midwife asks him to come to the hospital due to baby’s worsening condition. Call log shown to court & mother’s testimony puts this call at 10.52pm but that doesn’t fit with rest of timeline. 5/ At 11.40pm Baby E suffered a sudden desaturation. 6/ Mother went to the neonatal unit with the midwife – they were both there at midnight The midwife stayed with her in the corridor for 10-15 mins at around midnight while doctors and nurses were working on her baby. The father hadn’t yet arrived. #LucyLetby
This is the same timeline as above but I've added in more details and links to source material. 1/ Dr Harkness was initially called to Baby E at around 10pm. He told Letby to keep close observation on Baby E, and logged a medical note at 10.10pm. He doesn’t believe he would have left the unit after that. Dr Harkness – medical notes: Dr David Harkness records readings from 9.40pm, written at 10.10pm, 'asked to see patient re: gastric bleed' [note he wasn’t there personally for the 9.40pm readings] #sequence-of-events-from-records class="text-blue-500 hover:underline" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://tattle.life/wiki/lucy-... Dr Harkness – trial testimony: He says for this night he was called over at 10pm, having been called over because Child E had blood in his vomit. The note 'close observation' is made, emphasising the designated nurse - Lucy Letby - was to monitor Child E closely in room 1. Dr Harkness says, from his recollection, he does not believe he left the unit as the bleed was 'something unusual' in Child E so he does not believe he went very far. #dr-david-harkness class="text-blue-500 hover:underline" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://tattle.life/wiki/lucy-... 2/ Dr Harkness was called for the 2nd time, at 11pm. He was worried about Baby E’s condition, spoke to the consultant and they decided to intubate. Preparations for this were being made at 11.30pm. The nursing team decided to contact Baby E’s mother who was in the maternity ward. Dr Harkness – trial testimony: For the 11pm note, he says Letby called him into room 1, where 'Further GI blood loss and desaturation to 70%' is noted. Dr Harkness says he is planning to intubate Child E… Dr Harkness says he would discuss the result of the x-ray with surgeons at Alder Hey and seek advice from them. Dr Harkness said he would then have been preparing to intubate and get the equipment ready. Prescriptions are made from 11.28pm-11.30pm for a number of drugs. #dr-david-harkness class="text-blue-500 hover:underline" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://tattle.life/wiki/lucy-... Daily Mail podcast: But doctor Harkness was called back again around 50 minutes later around 11 PM by Lucy Letby. When even more blood came up the tube, the court heard that the blood loss by this point was significant, and it amounted to a quarter of all the blood in his body… Doctor Harkness was worried, and he decided to call the consultant … to discuss baby E's worsening condition. They both agreed that doctor Harkness would give the baby fluids to help replace the blood loss and prepare to ventilate him.. The idea was to get him stable enough to see what was causing the problem. And the nursing team also decided at this point to contact baby E's mother upstairs. She was asked to call her husband. https://youtu.be/kO9sC8Nz4EI?s... 3/ The midwife received a call from the neonatal unit at 11.30pm asking for the mother to go down She went to ask the mother to contact her husband. Midwife – statement as read out in court: Her 'midwife notes' are presented to the court, showing the mum of Child E was 'post-natal well', and one of the twins had 'deteriorated slightly'. At 11.30pm on August 3 she had a call from the neonatal unit to ask Child E's mother to go down in 30 minutes as Child E had a bleed and required intubating - 'very poorly'. She said the mum was very upset and she thought the 30-minute was 'unreasonable' and asked to go sooner. #midwife-susan-brookes class="text-blue-500 hover:underline" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://tattle.life/wiki/lucy-... 4/ Mother calls her husband and Midwife asks him to come to the hospital due to baby’s worsening condition. Call log shown to court & mother’s testimony puts this call at 10.52pmbut that doesn’t fit with rest of timeline. Mother - trial testimony: She was later told by the midwife and to ring her husband. The midwife called the husband at 10.52pm, telling him to come to the hospital, after the neo-natal rang the maternity ward. She said she does not know why the midwife rang, but assumed it was because she was "very upset" and "knew there was something wrong". #family-mother class="text-blue-500 hover:underline" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://tattle.life/wiki/lucy-... Father - trial testimony: ‘The second phone call was split between the midwife and his wife. He was told: "Don't panic, but get over here now.’ #family-father class="text-blue-500 hover:underline" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://tattle.life/wiki/lucy-... Father - on Panorama: Quickly followed up by a second phone call with a midwife saying, you need to get here now. And there was a 3rd phone call telling me, where are you? The priest has been called. And I just knew. I knew at that point, you know, you don't call a priest unless someone's dying. https://youtu.be/yo13E3YwvBg?s... Mother - Inquiry Testimony : Q. When you went back, did you get a call later that night to go back to the NNU? A. Yes, yes. So I'd had a conversation with a midwife and I was upset, and I told her what I'd found, and I think she checked on me throughout the couple of hours, and she then asked me to -- she'd come in to the room and asked me to contact my husband, and ring him. And at that point I knew something really bad was happening, and she asked to speak to him and she didn't -- she wanted to speak to him and she told him to come to the hospital straight away and not to drive. To get somebody else to drive him. Page 11 line 9 of: https://thirlwall.public-inqui... 5/ At 11.40pm Baby E suffered a sudden desaturation. Dr Harkness – medical notes: Dr Harkness records, in clinical notes at this time, written retrospectively, 'Sudden deterioration at 11.40pm, brady 80-90bpm, sats 60%, poor perfusion, colour change over abdomen purple discoloured patches'. Lucy Letby – medical notes: Letby recorded, retrospectively: "11.40pm became Bradycardiac, purple band of discolouration over abdomen, perfusion poor, CRT 3secs. "Emergency intubation successful and placed on ventilator..." #sequence-of-events-from-records class="text-blue-500 hover:underline" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://tattle.life/wiki/lucy-... 6/ Mother went to the neonatal unit with the midwife – they were both there at midnight The midwife stayed with her in the corridor for 10-15 mins at around midnight while doctors and nurses were working on her baby. The father hadn’t yet arrived. Mother - Trial Testimony: The mum was taken to the neo-natal ward and the medical team were 'working on Child E' and were unsuccessful in their resuscitation attempts. #family-mother class="text-blue-500 hover:underline" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://tattle.life/wiki/lucy-... Mother - Inquiry testimony Q. So you go down, and what situation confronted you?Where were you when you went down? A. Sorry? Q. Where were you when you went down, where were you taken? A. So when I went down I was sat in that same corridor where I could first hear them crying and there were some chairs and the midwife was sat next to me and I think she was trying to talk to me, and I was -- I don'treally know what she was saying because I was watching what was happening through the window because I could see his incubator straight from where I was sat. And I could see -- or I couldn't really see -- I couldn't see Child E, but I could see the team around him working and it looked busy and it looked serious. Q. You say in your statement you had to sit outside in thecorridor for approximately 15 minutes? A. Yes. Q. And then: "A member of staff came out and asked if I wanted Child E to be christened and asked where my husband was." Page 11 line 25 of: https://thirlwall.public-inqui... Midwife – statement as read out in court: At midnight, the midwife stayed with Child E's mother for 10 minutes in the corridor outside the neonatal nursery room where Child E and Child F were, and the mum was eventually allowed in once medical staff had stabilised Child E. #midwife-susan-brookes class="text-blue-500 hover:underline" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://tattle.life/wiki/lucy-... #LucyLetby
@JabesAllowed What has his later arrival got to do with this? Baby E needed a bloodtransfusion & someone saw baby's death immanent. Why, wasn't it diagnosed yet or had "bloodbank" gone home?