Context: - On April 26 it was announced that Vanner's contract with both VT and KLAP would be coming to an end on May 31 2025. This was a surprise to many as the original signing announcement had been for a 3-year contract running May 2023 - May 2026. https://x.com/nugupromo/status...

- On April 28 a concert titled "Goodbye & Hello" (G&H) was announced, to occur on May 18. - On May 6 the G&H poca album was announced, along with the inclusion of new animal characters (named Vannee) as part of the merchandise https://x.com/VannerOfficial/s...

- On May 14 Vannee World, an online game featuring the Vannee characters was surprise launched - The game had many in-group references, OT5 clothing sets etc. Later there would be more merchandise released including plush, tins and keychains https://x.com/VannerOfficial/s...

- On May 18, the G&H concert was held. Hyesung (HS), who had been released from enlistement and was on health hiatus, returned to perform in the show meaning all 4 active members performed (Sungkook (SK) was/is enlisted until Winter 2025) https://x.com/VannerOfficial/s...

- At the concert the energy was excited, there were very few tears, Yeonggwang (YG) talked about his enlistment and return in 2027. Although no specific future plans were shared most fans including myself did not feel that this was a disbandment performance

- May 22 Taehwan (TH) reveals that the trademark rights to the name "Vanner" are now owned by the members, having been paid for by KLAP as a gift - May 28 it is announced that KLAP has been acquired as a subsidiary of Blitzway entertainment https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop/...

- During the final days of the group contract the members, minus HS, did G&H fansigns. - On May 30 a nostalgic MV for G&H was posted - On May 31 the contract officially ended - Vannee world was still ongoing and scheduled out till August 22nd (Later extended to september 22nd)

From May 31-August 1: - No tiktoks besides one related to precorder youtube (YT) content - YT only prerecorded content from SK & HS which they filmed prior to enlistement - X only posts related to prerecorded YT videos - Fancafe posts only from SK

- July 10 Honeylog (HS' blog) In his blog posts he mentions moving to a new apartment makes, he makes reference to meeting with SK and shares his daily life which does not seem to include performing/performance prep https://m.blog.naver.com/hsboy...

- Taehwan & Gon (T&G) still use their bubble (bbl) accounts to chat and for regular livestreams, nothing on yt where they had previously held most livestreams - T&G continually reference having a manager, using the practice rooms, and appear to still live in the same dorm

- Aug. 4, SK uploads a personal photo post to X - Aug 7, GON's Bday, no official post on any Vanner channel, only bbl live - Aug. 8 post on official X account alerting fans to HS/SK opening Insta and X accounts. https://x.com/VannerOfficial/s...

- Aug. 13" YG announces his enlistment on Sept 4 Via fancafe, he mentions no longer having a contract. +Honeylog from the same day has HS saying he is not under contract but still wants to be an idol +TH bbl message about having plans they can't share https://x.com/VVSPhilippines/s...

- Many people leave frustrated comments on YG's enlistment post, as this was the first message from him anywhere in over two months, some comments get deleted by moderators - Aug 15 the fancafe officially switches the listed Ownership from "KLAP" to "Vanner"

- Aug 17, TH's bubble live shows that he has moved into SK's former room (now sharing the same dorm as WS and their manager) This confirms that the other three have fully moved out and the two dorms were able to be combined into one.

END OF SUMMARY Now we get into the speculation part Please note that this is not in any way confirmed this is simply what I and some other fans have been able to put together based on the above evidence

It appears that T&G have signed an additional contract with Klap/Blitzway and are preparing a new project now (Duo? solo? acting? we aren't really sure) They no longer use or post on official Vanner accounts only bbl Official accounts now appear to belong to HS and/or SK

The members are not speaking directly about each other besides T&G. TH is the only member to post (on bbl) about Gon's bday except a vague reference in that day's Honeylog No mention from any member about SK's return in <100 days or about YG's enlistment news

- Why has nothing official been announced? My guess is that Vannee world, which had a delayed release, was meant to be an OT5 thing. The merch is OT5 and the game is OT5, therefore they wouldn't want to announce a new separate project at the same time (so basically: capitalism)

- Why aren't the members talking about one another? They appear to no longer have an active contract as a group and all live separately. If the theory of a T&G duo redebut is correct then it is possible they are being directed to split off entirely from the Vanner brand

- Is T&G having a separate contract permanent or will they reform as a full group later? I don't know - Why would T&G split off from the others? I don't know - Is Vanner disbanding? I don't know :( - Should we be sad about this? That's up to you, but I know I am!

- When will we know for sure? I don't know, but my guess is after Vannee world's last update on August 22nd, but it is possible they will wait till the game fully shuts down Sept 22. Either way i think a new T&G project announcement of some kind will come soon after.

- What is going to happen to HS, SK, and YG? It appears they have access to the official accounts, it is possible they could continue the <Vanner> group name as a duo once SK's enlistment finishes. YG is enlisting in a few weeks so his future is even less clear.

- Is there any hope for the full group? Yes. Vanner's trademark is still owned by all 5 members, and while they may be working in different places right now it is always possible that they were come back together in the future. If they do I will be here waiting for them 🩵

So that's what's up. I know how confusing these last few months have been and wanted to give some insight to people who might not be following as closely Disclaimer that nothing is confirmed until it is officially announced/reported on. end of thread

I wanted to add a few notes/clarifications. If you notice any other inaccuracies feel free to let me know. 1) All dates/times are based off PST timezone. 2) WS = Wonseo/GON, i was trying to be consistent on member names/shortenings but I missed that one.

3) Clarifying HS/SK’s Plans. HS has stated via Honeylog that he is frustrated at not being able to perform right now, compared it to when he couldnt perform because of Covid, but stressed that he still dreams of being an idol and hopes fans will wait for him (+)

(+) So there are likely no active plans for a project at this time. SK has not specified any plans but still communicates actively and directly with fans when possible. we also know SK/HS met up recently (and took cute pics of each other 💛💜)

4) A timeline detail i forgot: Aug 12 - YG’s public insta account was discovered. The account had been created before HS/SK’s, had his real name, and pics showing his face. For reasons unknown it was not shared alongside HS/SK’s accounts. The comments are now turned off.

if any further details/corrections are needed i will continue to add them below. 🫡

Additional Note 2: I missed this before but Vannee merch sales are going until August 31 per the website. YG's bubble also officially closes September 1. I would guess we'll get news on that day or very soon after.

@oneframemoment @dotdotllama Thank you so much for the explanation I haven’t been very active on social media to understand what was going on… It is a bit to fully take in yet and my heart is a bit muddled right now but thank you for making things clearer for me. ❤️

@CoralSweetiekan im glad to be able to provide some clarity 🩵🩵