when i say "eugenics fetish", i mean it's an isekai in which the protagonist's IQ (i mean INT stat) is 4 standard deviations higher than the average of the local population. he then talks about how he needs to get paid for his smart sperm

HEREDITY OPTIMIZATION PROCESSES

for context: the full title of this work is "Mad Investor Chaos and the Woman of Asmodeus". it takes place across forum threads in which the writers use different accounts to post as different characters the format is called "Glowfic", named after a Twilight fanfic

here's a good summary of the series and what glowfic is. it doesn't, however, mention all of the eugenics i also can't emphasize enough how hard to read it is. Harry Potter and the Method of Rationality has nothing on it https://recordcrash.substack.c...

one of the reasons it's taken so long to figure out how to write about this is because i wanna read the whole thing and it is just SO BAD lintamande talking about "native-born INT 20" is Piper

here is Yudkowsky fantasizing about having sex with lots of girls to "bump up the average central intelligence factor by half a standard deviation"

more discussion of eugenics using D&D INT. "a 20 (INT person) can end up running the country"

"His utility function was inverted and He became a god of torture"

how do i know it's Kelsey? this Astral Codex Ten comment for a start lintamande/Piper's insta is followed by a number of people in the Rationality/effective altruism communities https://www.astralcodexten.com...

source for the last image. maybe all the eugenics is why the name wasn't written down i understand being discrete about the horny aspect. my issue is the eugenics, the co-writer, and the larger context of the Rationality/EA communities + AI + the press https://www.lesswrong.com/post...

it should be noted that The Argument is being funded by extremely wealthy effective altruists, just like the Future Perfect section of Vox is (where Kelsey Piper currently writes)

it should also be noted that famous Rationality community member Scott Alexander of Astral Codex Ten was also exposed for being into the race science/eugenics theory of "human biodiversity" around the time this fanfic was being written

Eliezer Yudkowsky's response to the above email being leaked was that "anybody who openly hates on this community or me is probably also a bad person that has no ethics" he then told people not to share the info!

coincidentally, here's Kelsey Piper defending Scott Alexander and claiming he's not a racist earlier this year!

the story starts off with Yudkowsky's character reading "Three to Infinity" by "Petheriel" aka Zero to Infinity by Peter Thiel fun fact: Peter Thiel also once funded Eliezer Yudkowsky's non-profit back when he founded LessWrong! check out that last name on the list too

i forgot to point out that Yudkowsky's self-insert character in this is a teenager. who is being horny for doing eugenics with other teenagers while being paid for his high IQ sperm in true libertarian fashion

this is not the first time Yudkowsky has been...weird regarding sex and writing he wrote a sci fi story in which a wise rationalist explains to the characters how rape came to be legal in the Star Trek-esque universe. he called this story "pg-13" https://www.polemics.md/that-t...

Eliezer Yudkowsky also promoted another Rationality-adjacent sci-fi book on Reddit that is about a 6 year old cyborg with the body of a 13 year old who ends up in uncomfortable sexual scenarios for some reason, he called it "basically Safe For Work" https://www.polemics.md/that-t...

i've seen critiques of this thread with some variation of "who cares?" this is why. Eliezer Yudkowsky and Peter Thiel are a big part of why Google DeepMind and even OpenAI exist now we have a journalist from the Rationalist community covering these labs https://www.nytimes.com/2021/0...

the part about Yudkowsky meeting Shane Legg in Peter Thiel's house is particularly relevant because, as i've discovered, Shane Legg cited a race scientist in his PhD thesis on theoretical AI https://www.polemics.md/agi-re...

as for the "Rationalist thought experiment", many of y'all know that's referring to Roko's Basilisk what many people don't know is that Roko himself has some pretty hot takes takes like "Ted Kaczynsky had an insight". and transgender Great Replacement theory

other cool Roko ideas are "bypassing the objections of many existing women" to outbreed feminists (more weird eugenics type stuff) and colonizing icebergs for AI server farms these are the types of people that Sam Altman is getting his Dyson Sphere theories from

@thecollegehill "I'm gonna spill the tea", but then it's just that someone wrote an erotic fanfic when they were younger? And they have "weird fetishes" which aren't even that weird? This is some weak ass tea, girl. It's basically just water.

@VioletFlame23 i'd say that fantasizing about breeding higher IQ children while also being the leader of a cult-like real life community marred with sexual misconduct allegations that is tied to actual eugenics is pretty weird

@thecollegehill Maybe im missing something, but who cares? Some bozo and some other bozo have fucked up fetishes on the internet: more at 9. Am i missing some context?

@RealSpEAM the full context is way too complicated and bizarre to explain in a tweet. i collected a bunch of articles to get people up to speed here on my website https://www.polemics.md/ai-doo...

@thecollegehill this feels like something @TrueAnonPod would have fun with

@nocksers @TrueAnonPod as far as podcasts go, @xriskology and @katewillett already do an excellent job of covering this entire sphere

@thecollegehill That book is really good. I recommend it. Also it’s not a eugenics fetish book. There is a part of it you could call eugenics, but not in the awful racialised form we’ve seen irl.

@thecollegehill I mean this in the nicest way but are you a fucking idiot

@thecollegehill I don't know how I feel about The Argument yet but eugenics and HBD are par for the course with rats. Many liberals just pretend not to see it so they can milk that community for clout. I hope the people involved can step back and realize how these cult-like behaviors are harmful

@thecollegehill Who the fuck cares? This is pathetic. Get a life.

@thecollegehill This is such a transparently desperate attempt by you to tear down something you have no actual ability to criticize on the merits. Pathetic behavior from an increasingly irrelevant culture of self-destructive dorks.

@thecollegehill There was a very specific, surprisingly long era in which takedowns/cancellations like this would’ve gotten any sort of traction. The vibes have since shifted. Nobody’s getting cancelled for creative writing some nerdy fantasy.

@thecollegehill @lib_crusher Why God why am I cursed with knowing who these vile people are

@thecollegehill Has she ever not been an embarrassment?