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During #AtlanticTrident25 Exercise organized by NATO in Finland, a French air force Rafale shot down an USAF F-35 in a mock dogfight.

@Tom_Antonov Those exercises typically put aircraft in certain situations that nerf their strenghts to create a more level playing field. Rafales are 'shot down' by F-35s on the regular. But the opposite happens once and the French Air Force put it in a promo video? That's pretty cringe.

@Tom_Antonov La pêche est bonne ?

@sebpugelle je ferai un podium des nationalités les plus choquées

@Tom_Antonov @grok tell facts

@Tom_Antonov CN J-10Cs shot down Indian Rafales. Rafales win a mock dogfight against US F-35s. There is no way to win actual WW3 without methods beyond Fighter Jets. Nuclear WW3 still can happen at any moment, people. The ASI-Singularity(Godsend) is the only Global Solution.

@Tom_Antonov We loose all the time in these types of things. People seem to forget our military is really good at sandbagging…. Oh a just like the great @HLC_actual says…. “Anything with canards is gay!”

@Tom_Antonov this wouldn't happen if Israelis were flying it...

@Tom_Antonov @grok true or false?

@Tom_Antonov This must be embarrassing…but the F-35 has one engine not two. Maybe that’s true, but the video is awfully misleading.

@Tom_Antonov 250 km air to air missiles by Chaina for sale at your local supermarket. Dogfight???

@Tom_Antonov The F-35 isn't even a dog fighter.. Not to mention this was probably a simulation where the Rafael is already within "sight" of the Rafael. I'd imagine in a real scenario the f35 would detect the Rafael way before the Rafael would detect it.

@Tom_Antonov Au moins une victoire pour Rafale contre EE.UU. etait le condition préalable que les Français participaierent au exercice🤣

@Tom_Antonov Congratulations on your “win” in the staged fight where the F35 flight with both arms tied behind its back and a blindfold on. French victories are so rare I don’t blame you for celebrating this “win”.

@Tom_Antonov F-35 is junk…, these days USA quality is way lesser than china… and these MAGA 🤡 think that orange Ape can bring usa as superpower…. 😂😂

@Tom_Antonov That’s not what the F-35 is for lmao

@Tom_Antonov The Rafale is no slouch, it can turn like a mofo. However wasn't it set up with the f35 at a disadvantage, I think I remember reading or seeing it started with the Rafale on his tail.

@Tom_Antonov The f-35 is not a dog fighter, and also wasn't allowed to launch an aim-120 fuckin backwards

@Tom_Antonov Europe is a joke 🤣🤣

@Tom_Antonov Some of the reactions to Fat Amy being downed by the Rafale... 😁

Image in tweet by Tom Antonov

@Tom_Antonov Anyone with a clue on tactical aviation knows this means nothing. Force on force, most of the Rafales would be obliterated pre-merge. It’s a good 4th gen fighter, but it can’t compete with 5th gen. Sounds like more marketing by Dassault. They need it. The F-35 will have 10x the

@Tom_Antonov Not the job of an f-35.F-16 for dogfighting if that's still a thing!

@Tom_Antonov That’s not a F-35 moron.

@Tom_Antonov Drones are to jet fighters today what machine guns did to prestigious horse cavalries in WWI. Fancy but in warfare becoming totally obsolete.

@Tom_Antonov F35 is not made for dog fights

@Tom_Antonov The F-35 is stealthy so it isn't expected to get into a dog fight with a Rafale. Without a preset scenario the Rafale would be in the drink without knowing what hit it.

@Tom_Antonov Yall know we loose those on purpose, right?

@Tom_Antonov My submarine was "sunk" in exercises all the time. Of course we added a noisemaker so the skimmers and airedales could find us. The exercises as stated have handicaps so that completely overmatched adversaries learn from them.

@Tom_Antonov And that’s why we sell the f35 and not the f22

@Tom_Antonov lol. Ok. European trash.

@Tom_Antonov Thousand variables here. Could be as simple as a wet behind the ears LT in the 35 etc. They do it to learn and that they did. So it’s a win.

@Tom_Antonov Mock dogfights aren't the real thing. I wouldn't put too much stock in this.

@Tom_Antonov Close range dog fights don’t happen in real life anymore, think of BVR

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