I'm researching what is happening in the tech jobs market. If you're a hiring manager recruiting, or an experienced eng on the job market, would love to hear what you see. DMs open. (Feels like a weird market. I suspect data on eg jobs doesn't reflect what's on the ground)
My DMs are overflowing - thanks for the messages, I’ll aim to get back to all of them! But could take a day or two.
@GergelyOrosz +23,000 applications in the last 30 days for 8 open roles, in person NYC.
@james_mcwalter WOW
@GergelyOrosz Skill level is quite low across the board. People applying for senior positions that can’t explain how basic things work when they’ve supposedly had 10 years experience with the language and tools. Seems like a lot of CV padding and unless you have someone who can properly vet.
@GergelyOrosz I hired 2 engineers in the last 3 months, 5 in the past 12 months. All US based fully remote. Biggest issue by far is trying to find qualified people. Best candidates have come through referrals. Any linkedin job or indeed posts get flooded with unqualified noise, it's not worth
@GergelyOrosz Most hiring managers buy into a psychosis that AI is about to save all of their expenses so that they don’t even have to have a budget This is believed to be perpetually 6 months away, but corporate only cares 1 quarter away This is the reason for the confusion & dissonance
@GergelyOrosz It’s difficult because there is a bit of an arms race during interviews. I’ve had to laugh a few out of the interview because of the GPT pause. Yes, AI is a primary qualification now, but we need them to actually know something to make sure they can guide the AI and call BS when
@GergelyOrosz We hire some and backfill open positions. Probably like everyone, we're too picky in the wrong ways. They're trying to work AI tools into the technical parts of the test. I would tell anyone to practice with Cursor or something similar and learn to sound like an expert. It's
@GergelyOrosz Just hired 4 SWEs for our Canadian office, replacing 4 that were poached. It is interesting for sure. One major takeaway is that we got 200+ applications in 12 hours for an intermediate position, 100+ for senior, and 15 for staff. Parsing through the noise is tougher.
@GergelyOrosz I am a professional vibe coder looking to transition into the tech market. Willing to offer my services, thoughts and opinions. $5432 a week - minimum contract 5 weeks.
@GergelyOrosz @GergelyOrosz Based in Eastern Europe, can confirm the data doesn't reflect ground reality. We've seen: Asian candidates with European names are showing up for the first interview European candidates are doing HR screening, then an Asian person appears for the technical round
@GergelyOrosz The higher up the chain you go the more the hiring decision makers are asking us to recruit engineers that know how to use AI dev assistants. Skill wise they will take the candidates that can leverage them for productivity over a better candidate that doesn’t or won’t use them.
@GergelyOrosz The market is almost as good as it was in the pandemic. I've been receiving more offers lately, even relocation ones. I live and work in Colombia for NA companies as a developer
@GergelyOrosz I'm a hiring manager and have been on the market (open to work) for a year. I have a lot of observations, the market has changed a lot, but what exactly do you want to know?
@GergelyOrosz I only know the Swedish market and Sweden do get affected my bad economy times but not as much as other countries due to how we build the economy during good times so there has been change but I haven't seen that much amount of changes. I guess this all depends on the country
@GergelyOrosz The combination of coming out of ZIRP hiring, moderately restrictive rates, and *mostly* forthcoming/unrealized changes from AI are definitely having an impact. Most of the effect has not been seen yet. We are still crossing the chasm in terms of AI coding tools, IMO.
@GergelyOrosz These trends aren’t as true for customer facing roles in tech, from my experience. Consulting and Sales skills will always win out over any perceived biases or hiring foibles.
@GergelyOrosz Garbage in garbage out. Offshore teams running software systems into the ground. Everything is a mess. Always was. Except a few companies that have technical leaders. Hiring is based on cost mostly. The tech world is full of low skilled leaders. But hopefully AI Jesus will save
@GergelyOrosz Anecdotally people with 50%+ final round pass rates in the past are now at 10%. Senior level is doing OK since they still get 10+ chances, but lower levels don't.
@GergelyOrosz Lot of good comments here that I'm seeing in the UK: - lean operators - stricter internal standards. Only hiring if it adds to team. - removing unproductive ppl sooner.
@GergelyOrosz Has been easier for us (medium size mediatech for the past ~1-1.5 year because engineers seem to have sought more job safety and a lot of consultants have flipped to fte too. We're state owned, probably helps too. Seems to continue atm.
@GergelyOrosz 5-6 Stage interview processes, different stacks and expectations. It’s a full time job and quite risky to focus on a single opportunity as you might be dealing with ghosters and time wasters. Some people can’t get interviews. LinkedIn URL seems mandatory when applying; I
@GergelyOrosz Many recruiters lost on how to deal with AI applications, trying to sieve through them alr with AI themselves. Few ones are going directly to phone call as soon as possible.
@GergelyOrosz Financial product knowledge + tech skills (python, C++ or Java) is still moving in NYC
@GergelyOrosz We’ve definitely seen a noise spike and even multiple resumes of the same person for multiple jobs but we also have been able to hire some really strong talent.
@GergelyOrosz Soft market so talent is there. Recruiters are no longer reliably perceiving quality signal (70%) and it’s more difficult to gauge practical quality in the interview process (30%). IMO quality candidates are slipping through upstream processes and just unable to differentiate.
@GergelyOrosz I’m a hiring manager and can tell you that hiring in this market is very difficult. There’s plenty of fish in the sea but not exactly to your taste. The ones that you do want have a lot of options 😅
@GergelyOrosz A lot of companies seem to be in efficiency mode.
@GergelyOrosz In Germany I think there are two issues the general bad economy and the promises of ai doing more work. Also German companies have hired too many devs at corona time.
@GergelyOrosz It’s bad
@GergelyOrosz ai needs true builders
@GergelyOrosz Open roles are very picky A lot of AI startups in nyc only paying 180-220k range
@GergelyOrosz DM'd
@GergelyOrosz you should talk to @HungLee and @randomrecruiter
@GergelyOrosz Interesting. Official data often lags behind real-world experience. A direct view is invaluable in this shifting landscape.
