@josephstein It’s for idiots that don’t want to roll their own. Just spin up your own server and build one.

@josephstein @grok what is api documentation platforms?

@josephstein any product + unwanted AI features = expensive pricing

@josephstein It's a filter price for established companies who don't mind spending money to save time. These customers are probably also less demanding since this price is not expensive to them.

@josephstein @tailwindcss Plus is $300 something one time payment and includes a fantastic docs template called Protocol. You can purchase it separately from the Plus membership as well. @theo used it for UploadThing, many others have used it.

@josephstein which one is this? have you tried http://fumadocs.dev, by @fuma_nama? it's on par with mintlify and totally self-hostable (free)

@branmcconnell @fuma_nama 2nd person to suggest this 👀

@josephstein I am building an MCP already for this to solve my own pain in ass. I had no idea there was money to be made

@josephstein Fun fact: Companies come in to disrupt this then realize the market is lucrative and raise their prices to match competition because getting $300/mo from people willing to pay for it is better than getting $0 from people who complain about the cost and wouldn't really use it

@joshmanders Had a similar thought. But who knows. Perhaps market in between enterprise and single dev

@josephstein Considering their target are multi billion (or even trillion) dollar companies i think the price is cheap. the problem of course is for the 0/mo app that the dev is doing for fun

@josephstein http://momentcrm.com offers free API docs, and soon your customers will get answers from it if they ask our live chat something that is answered in your docs

@josephstein Ugh.. hate to break it to you but there is already a $0 plan in your screenshots

@josephstein what is the problem statement? why do you need "api documentation platforms" in the first place?

@josephstein What are you looking at?

@josephstein While not an API docs platform, we are building DeepDocs a to keep your API docs on Github in sync with your changing codebase (*no OpenAPI spec required). Still in beta but feel free it out: http://DeepDocs.dev

@josephstein Why not just ship your own?

@josephstein Why don’t you use docusaurus?

@josephstein Used fumadocs for http://jobbig.dev, definitely recommend it

@josephstein And usually the worst documentation ever. I admit that Stripe has the best in giving you the code already tailored to your api keys so you copy/paste and ready to go. But $400 monthly in a prepaid yearly plan, for may be having a startup, that doesn't have many apis, $5K is big

@josephstein MDX, add instructions to your http://agents.md file to have the the AI update the docs when needed.

@UglyRobotDev Yea think I’ll go the mdx route

@josephstein I feel that. It's a massive pain point. We built an API-first platform to disrupt this exact market. My goal is to be a strategic investment that saves you time and money, not another line item on a budget. We're a fraction of that cost. #APIDocs #DevTools #Disruption #SaaS

@josephstein *pulls up Replit with no clue how to code or what API even means*

@josephstein I think even with new companies they’ll charge the $300 to match the market and it’s plus for them since they don’t want 30 people to pay $10 and only want one enterprise to convert in the $300 base plan

@josephstein There are actually cheaper (and even free) tools that can generate API docs automatically — might be worth checking those out. Our product, EchoAPI, also helps with API design and uses AI to generate the documentation. You can go from designing to documenting, testing, and

@josephstein Wait! There are paid documentations? Never saw any

@josephstein Most of them are wrappers on top of docusaurus. Just vibe code your own with React, integrated with MkDocs, jupyterbook, and docusaurus.

@josephstein Crazy, why not just rent a server and self host? I have a dev server from ovh/kimsufi that has 128gb ram, 8tb disk space and 500mbs unmetered internet for $45 usd per month. I highly doubt there are many entities that have documentation hosting needs that require more than that.

@josephstein Mintlify with 1 editor is completely free. If you need more it's probably your main business, in which case $300 probably not significant to you

@josephstein What do you think the price should be and why?

@josephstein Yep, pretty moronic

@josephstein What's stopping you from using Docusaurus?

@josephstein Why would you need to pay money to publish docs lmao

@josephstein What is wrong with the free versions of swagger or postman? Is there a feature you're trying to get that they don't have?