This is what you get with 400MB nowadays :(

@SebAaltonen Still the best terminal and it's not even close No linux terminal emulator out there that saves and restores scrollback or tabs unless you rig up some fragile insane rube goldberg machine out of tmux and custom scripts

@SebAaltonen Did they embed an entire Chrome in it, or was it an Electron app from the very start?

@SebAaltonen Despite popular opinion, that also never was quite usable, so I.preferred Terminal until I found a new sleak terminal project: https://ghostty.org/

@SebAaltonen Use ghostty. On my machine, with an empty tmux session, which uses 96MB of RAM. https://ghostty.org/download

@SebAaltonen They need to add a ready-to-go javascript-coded terminal widget inside of the web browser based on HTML5 canvas.

@SebAaltonen i mean if ur on mac, just use ghostty, why tf do people use this and that excuse of a terminal warp

@SebAaltonen Cannot confirm. Just tried it - 63MB. RAM usage of an empty terminal did not change at all compared to v3.5 in my case.

@SebAaltonen Just drop it. Ghostty is so much better, cleaner, faster and you config it through a text file!

@SebAaltonen I especially hate apps that include their own chrome when webview is literally baked into every OS exactly so you don't need 10 apps with 10 chromes installed

@SebAaltonen Just to add that the opposite way is better. https://xtermjs.org/

@SebAaltonen Ghostty is using the same amount of ram on my M3 Pro, my terminal is open 24/7, no issues with those 400mbs of usage. Sad day for iterm, moving on :’)

@SebAaltonen Can we add an OS into the terminal?

@SebAaltonen pfff amateurs https://github.com/mmulet/term...

@SebAaltonen Emacs envy... Without the benefits of Emacs.

@SebAaltonen Does it also have AI assistance? Every piece of software must have some✨AI✨ in it. There was a recent case when some mouse drivers installed memory-intensive AI-assistant bloatware implemented of course as an Electron app. It installed automagically by plugging mouse.

@keaukraine Of course it has AI assistance. That launched in the previous update :D

@SebAaltonen Not sure about 400MB. When I look at Activity Monitor mine shows 150MB. If you don't want some of the features you can turn them off. iTerm2 is pretty slick.

@SebAaltonen Been on iTerm2 for years on my Mac, but I finally pulled the plug. Switched to Kitty recently — lighter, faster, and no random bloat creeping in.

@SebAaltonen Just buy a workstation for all your users. Memory issue solved.

@SebAaltonen I honestly use it less and less now that I live inside Zed

@SebAaltonen I've been using Rio for months. Worth giving a try. https://rioterm.com/

@SebAaltonen Installed Ghostty, never looked back

@SebAaltonen the biggest issue I had with iTerm2 was lack of proper quake mode it was still shown on dock and all possible task switchers for some reason maybe it changed in recent years, haven't touched mac for a while

@SebAaltonen I switched to warp

@SebAaltonen So about 1 chrome tab

@SebAaltonen they just heap feature after feature into it. Many of them overlap with stuff a decent shell already does

@SebAaltonen and this is why i use alacritty

@SebAaltonen Sadly it was a good terminal. Many teams try to add more fancy but nonsensical features and never care about such things like memory usage: more features, more memory, but less value.

@SebAaltonen I use WezTerm because it consume less memory than standard Terminal, but Terminal is just the best.

@SebAaltonen Yeah, glad I got rid of that, it got slower and slower as the years wen't on. I'm happy with Ghostty

@SebAaltonen No?

@SebAaltonen You've got to be kidding me 😩

@SebAaltonen Tahoe default terminal now supports all the colors and I finally ditched all 3rd party terminals

@SebAaltonen ok. fuck me

@SebAaltonen Why use Unix4Grandma OS???