Honest question: The Western attention dedicated to the Palestinian plight is unique vs other conflicts (Xinjiang, Houthis, South Sudan, Syria, Afghanistan…). Why? What makes it unique? The most Arabs / Muslims killed? No: Syrian civil war, Houthis in Yemen, Sudan / South Sudan
@tomaspueyo Your parsimonious arguments are correct, but some additional factors: •diaspora populations of both sides in western countries •more historically relevant than today, but Israel is safe & comfortable for journalists to travel to, unlike many of those other examples
@pythonrocksnake Valid point on the diaspora But then the implication is that Palestine-focused Westerners are being manipulated by self-serving Muslim immigrants? Agreed on the exposure part. But Gaza is not a safe place to travel to, even for a journalist? Also I think they're not even
@tomaspueyo Maybe it's because there's a disinformation machine sponsored by the Islamic Brotherhood with abundant financial resources. Additionally this brotherh is already embedded in several countries in Europe and the West, where they perform strategic lobbying in high political spheres
@victor_0ctavio This explanation is parsimonious. It doesn't explain why Westerners let themselves be influenced by it though, including a huge share of journalists and politicians who know best
@tomaspueyo How many of those conflicts listed are western countries required to fund, support and supply equipment for?
@snarky_mk The West also funds the Palestinian side though?
@tomaspueyo Is this for real? One key claim, "The Jews were in the area ~2500y before Arab-Muslims," oversimplifies a complex history. Jewish presence traces back to the Kingdom of Israel (circa 1200 BCE), roughly 3,200 years ago, but the region was also home to Canaanites and other groups
@tomcoady https://unchartedterritories.t... South Sudan --> Masalit genocide? And you can broadly see it as Nilotic ppl overwhelming non-Nilotic ppl? Then Han are erasing the Uyghurs (as they've erased many other ethnicities before). That is genocide according to the definition Afghanistan is 10x
@tomaspueyo My 2 cents: there aren't many videos documenting the attrocities in graphic details in most of your examples. Also - the West has some leverage on Israel (unlike in Sudan). Also, to be fair - Westerners have called out the Arab states, and China has been sanctioned for Xinjiang
@rimpopov_hristo Yeah but the level of attention is disproportionate And the leverage —> so again, it’s just because it’s weak? That doesn’t sound righteous at all.
@tomaspueyo Because it is the last Western anticolonial war. It fits into a long standing tradition, not just on the left, that has animated the historical anti-west-colonialism movement in the West and in former Western colonies. Of course, the fact that the current Israeli government has
@pwk Hm what about Russia vs Siberia?
@tomaspueyo Because they are weak is non sensical... Yazidi are much weaker, Baloch, Egypt Copts, Crimean Tartars... Many ethnic groups are weaker and oppressed
@y_not_ok Agreed
@tomaspueyo In my opinion 3 answers: 1. An army against a civil population 2. A self declared liberal democracy using brutal approaches not acceptable by liberal democracies 3. A government of a population that suffered a terrible tragedy, applying the same to another population
@robanzat 1. Hamas is not a civil population, and those civilians supporting the military are not civilians. I believe the share of civilians vs militants killed in this conflict is lower than in comparable conflicts 2. Agreed, but then the message should come from brotherhood, not hate?
@tomaspueyo If we treat Israel as a civilised country with whom we are willing to trade and exchange weapons then we should hold them to the standards of behaviour we ought to expect of such countries, and they should not get away with behaving like terrorists.
@chrisgj198 I hear you, but then why are we subjecting them to a higher standard than the US when it reacted to 9/11?
@tomaspueyo Active Western complicity. As an aside - the "2500 years ago " argument, whose sources are mythological, is patently absurd. But even then the region wasn't exclusively Israelite: see Joshua 11.13, 13.13 & 16.63. PS Parsimonious means stingy.
