@Derpismm through violence and exclusion. The same mindset that built machines also built slavery, colonization, and world wars.And no matriarchal or egalitarian societies didn’t “fail to evolve.” They were wiped out by expansionist empires that measured progress by conquest.

@Waldorf248671 There were and still are matriarchal socites that have been mostly untouched by man and such empires for eons, and they still aren't educated or advanced. Patriarchy doesn't monopolize expansion, risk and systemization, it incentives it. Matriarchies simply dont

@Derpismm They are integrated in a global patriarchal system. That’s like asking why Africans haven’t done so and so when they’re being strangled by the IMF or UNSC. For some reason black men can understand when similar scenario applies to them and their race but not when it’s about women

@Derpismm Black men will cry about how their history and inventions was stolen and rebranded and something whites or Arabs invented and have been locked out the competition for thousands of years and how it affects them today and their ability to catch up but not get it when it’s about

@Derpismm When it’s about women. They will literally cry about how their greatest nation Egypt was destroyed and rebranded , its sciences stolen and claimed by others but can’t understand how it works the same did societies patriarchies destroyed and APPROPRIATED everything about them

@Waldorf248671 The thing is, at least Kemet had sciences and technology to be stolen. Matriarchal societies evidently did not and still do not to this day. I find it really weird how you just started talking about black men tho, where is that even coming from

@Derpismm That’s not the point of that example. I asked why haven’t blacks invented or built rival civilizations in comparison of whites today. Do you care to share ?

@Waldorf248671 Blacks have weaker patriarchies, generally speaking, and when we do have a patriarchal system, it's usually by the rule of a forgein patriarchal power.

@Derpismm No, it was environmental and evolutionary. Their environment didn’t require them to invent type of weapons used against them or the systems used to acquire them. Also fact check, the Kramer comment and above all that wasn’t my question. Why aren’t yall doing well today .

@Waldorf248671 The environmental and evolutionary factors are in support of my assessment. In a high abundance environment, more matriarchal values and structures will form, and the bio-cultrual evolution of a people will be shaped by that and inevitably conquered by the more patriarchal and

@Derpismm Meta, this is what we call pseudo-evolutionary determinism.AKA a narrative that tries to naturalize patriarchy and conquest as “biological destiny.” You are not separating what’s actually scientific from what’s just dressed up ideology.

@Derpismm There’s no evidence that climate or resource abundance automatically produces one gender system or the other. Anthropology shows enormous variety even in identical environments. The Kung San and Hadza (both in arid Africa) are egalitarian hunter-gatherers.

@Derpismm Yes pharaohs were mostly male during later dynasties, but that doesn’t erase Egypt’s matrifocal and dualistic worldview. Women like Hatshepsut, Nefertari, and Tiye weren’t token figures; they governed, led trade, built temples, and issued decrees. Women could inherit, own,

@Derpismm and litigate property independently something absent in most patriarchal empires of the same era. So calling Egypt “patriarchal” is like calling a mixed constitutional state an “absolute monarchy” because the head of state is male. Oversimplified, inaccurate.

@Derpismm “Africa was conquered cause the men were weak” argument Factually and morally wrong. Africa wasn’t conquered because of weak men it was conquered because of gunpowder, industrial capitalism, and global naval empires. Europe’s technological leap came from

@Derpismm centuries of inter-Eurasian trade (much of it learned from Africa and Asia) and colonial extraction not innate “masculine strength.” Africans fought ferociously.Also the False premise ong given AKA Societies in “abundant” environments often evolve technologies

@Derpismm to manage abundance sustainably (terracing, irrigation, aquaculture). The real driver of “progress” is social complexity and cross cultural exchange, not scarcity.If hardship guaranteed advancement, the poorest nations would be the most powerful.💀😭

@Derpismm Your logic fails here cause you’re building a myth of masculine destiny: scarcity breeds strength → strength breeds patriarchy → patriarchy breeds progress.That’s ideology, not science. Biology doesn’t select for patriarchy. cultures construct it and then call it natural.

@Waldorf248671 @Derpismm Partriachy was a natural progression of society. It wasn’t “fair,” but it was effective given the evolutionary incentives and material conditions.

@darkanonn @Derpismm Okay, My bad. I wanted to finish my comments with meta but tbh you can just read my responses to the thread. It’s pretty much my entire point/ argument.

@Waldorf248671 @Derpismm tldr ( summary ) please?

@darkanonn @Waldorf248671 Just ask her to send you her chatGPT chat, I'm still waiting for her for to finish copy and pasting her points

@Derpismm @Waldorf248671 I kinda skim thru no offense, but counterpoints were emotionally valid but logically insufficient. really no alternative model, no proof of matriarchal advancement, and no causal framework.

@darkanonn @Derpismm Chat gpt babble and misogyny bonding. No way you read the whole thread in 3 minute. Lmfao a woman or men who play fair would disagree. Anyway muting this thread

@Waldorf248671 @Derpismm I read at 500 wpm. you're main core point is that men innovated more because they had a monopoly on opportunity, not because patriarchy produces innovation. core argument = patriarchy hoarded opportunity; innovation is human, not patriarchal.

@darkanonn @Derpismm I asked him why black men have not built rival civilizations in comparison to whites and instead of being honest that when isolated people for centuries or thousands of years, results will be lopsided and make it seem whites are simply superior when in reality

@darkanonn @Derpismm Black men cry about their history, sciences, arts being stolen , coveted and rebranded as something Arabs created. But yall can’t understand it happened to women too,women were primarily healers with traditional medicine and alot of what we know about modern medicine stems

@Waldorf248671 @Derpismm If women’s exclusion alone explains lower historical innovation, why do modern women with equal access to education, patents, and jobs still produce significantly fewer inventions and discoveries than men?

@darkanonn @Derpismm You clearly didn’t read the entire thread cause I already responded to this. Tbh there’s no point in men and women having this conversation cause they come from place of wanting to make sure they don’t read what you said rather look to devalue and dismiss you

@Waldorf248671 @Derpismm you're projecting, ngl. i've noticed this pattern where u avoid answering direct questions, then pivot to moral, emotional, or analogical territory. but lets move on ig.

@darkanonn @Derpismm No I just double checked and I wasn’t wrong. Notice things about other people. There’s a WHOLE that’s already responded to your questions. You’re trying to bait me to go back and fifth with you until you conclude “okay so you agree patriachies are better” when that was NOT

@darkanonn @Derpismm That was NOT the conversation. You both want to make it a THIS VS THAT when the whole time if you read the thread (you didn’t) you’d see I have been explaining how both genders have equally contributed to civilization and even to PATRIARCHY.

@Waldorf248671 @darkanonn This conversation literally started with you just saying that patriarchy is just pedophilia, slavery and human trafficking, and now its diffrent.

@Derpismm @darkanonn Just because I acknowledged a fact does NOT mean I proposed matriarchies to be better . Wanting to dismantle patriarchy does not = replacing in with matriarchy. You came into my mentions to speak ill on matriarchies and compete and compare the systems and reinforce women’s place

@Derpismm @darkanonn As inferior, less intelligent, less effective when that WAS NOT the point of my tweet. Did you see me recommend a replacing with matriarchy or compare it to matriarchy in my original tweet?? You brought it up first and turned it into some kind of competition.