Bots enter the game on regular playlists ONLY under these conditions: - players kickstart a lobby for a playlist, and the pre-round takes longer than X minutes (I believe 3 minutes) At that point, the bots fill the server to the necessary limit to start the game

As in 24 per side I believe for CQ for ex. At that point, the game starts, and you can play with the bots instead of waiting. Other players in the same region matchmaking on that same playlist - will join this server (as it has you on it). Each time a player joins, a bot leaves

Once 24 players per team has entered, the server is no longer seeded with bots, and all players. Leaving the rest of the slots for players as well (32v32) These servers are all 64 player (or whatever the max of the playlist states) - not "smaller" ones at all.

The alternative to doing this, would be full on waiting (possibly forever) to play on the playlist of your choice in regions with low population. but to fill a server (the first in the region) - you need to stay with the bots. if you keep leaving because: 1: you see bots

2: you see no other players Well, the reason for that is you are first. You need to stick it out (or atleast give it a minute or two, or how may you are willing to try and wait for) We can and will test longer wait limits for the seed bots to kick in, but please spread the word!

Final add: There is also "onboarding bots" which is used in certain gamemodes for new players (called introduction breakthrough I think) - these bot games are different from the seeded ones. They stick around and populate a big chunk of the total players on each team.

@tiggr_ I am writing this letter because I feel that the presence of bots in the game is clearly killing the fun of playing. In many rounds, I feel like I'm not facing real players but just bots that act weird and illogically, which makes the experience out of enthusiasm and the

@AAsinani Like I stated in this thread earlier today - bots are only there to seed servers so they start. the alternative would be no server under those circumstances. We will of course check for issues here too, and when and if servers spawn in the wrong way or when they shouldnt

@tiggr_ The problem is that you refuse to acknowledge that there is a problem.

@PJIJPX I don't refuse to do that at all? I am looking for detailed, specific issues. And first you need to understand what it is SUPPOSED to do. Then I can see what is happening (outside of that) - and look for the problem and a fix.

@tiggr_ The complaint most people have David (im in EU, so dont have same issue) is that the MM experience is too inefficient. That there is enough population for real player, but MM is spinning up servers and splitting playerbase into different MM servers, thus having to fill with bots

@tiggr_ Please fix the matchmaking bug where when a party member joins it locks all multiplayer options saying that it isn't available to play with the party. Is really annoying

@tiggr_ Thanks David for the detailed explanation. Noticed one interesting thing though - when playing cross-region with a friend (he’s in Miami, I’m in Prague), the first match always drops us into a lobby with just us or ~6 players and the rest bots (Escalation or CQ). Second match

@tiggr_ there are 2 possible theories: 1. either the player base if seriously split between many game modes or playlist that we need to seed with bots to get match going. which I seriously doubt it, because even if I select breakthrough which is more popular mode than conquest

@tiggr_ Maybe if there weren’t 57 different playlists people wouldn’t be seeing them as often.

@tiggr_ Why can’t we have bots in portal with full progression. Seeing as how challenges are so easy now no one should be upset that people want to play with bots

@tiggr_ Dedicated servers Never had an issue finding a lobby with players in bf4

@tiggr_ Too many game modes and servers then. Also I'd imagine just starting the server with at around ~70% of total players is good enough to still be enjoyable .then let the server fill with other player as the match goes on, no bots included

@tiggr_ Fix support specialist 3

@tiggr_ I understand this point of view, But the biggest complaints I get from viewers is playing against kills their fun! Maybe for very very few they like it , But the best example is this Go look at portal. It’s 99% Xp boost this was an issue with 2042 that is being copy and paste

@tiggr_ I was getting so pissed off when I would load into escalation and the first match or 2 would be straight bots.

@tiggr_ What you mean to say is there are clearly more human bots than AI.

@tiggr_ I think the majority of regular battlefield players would rather have a full lobby of real players but with a higher ping than lots of bots. I had a game earlier that I'm still not convinced wasn't casual breakthrough in disguise even though found through custom search

@tiggr_ “Tell me, does anything look a little strange in that map…?” https://youtu.be/P1AG7wG-oew?s...

@tiggr_ @tiggr_ , why doesn't the game keep the server/lobby after a match ends? I mean, keep the players who played, just do a "auto-balance" and move on to the next map. This would prevent players from playing with bots.

@tiggr_ Fix the bot issue in the Middle East. It’s unbelievable — ever since the game was released until now, everyone is focusing on small problems and ignoring the issues that are killing the game. The matchmaking is also extremely bad. I took this screenshot during peak time, and the

@tiggr_ The whole bot thing is annoying. I join a match, get like 20 real players and the rest bots. Leave search again, only 10 real players same thing every time. Why can’t everyone be put together? And when we finally get 64 players ,it ends and we all get split up again.

@tiggr_ Problem is theres too much bots in main game, but you removed them from portal so casuals have nowhere to play… not everyone has time to be a hardcore gamer or streamer @tiggr_

@tiggr_ The weapon consistency. Seems like at close range I’m consistently outgunned by LMG’s and Carbines, despite using SMG’s. Then at longer ranges, consistently outgunned by SMG’s despite using larger caliber weapons

@tiggr_ That all makes sense and is logical. The thing that isn't us that when the match finishes the lobby of actual players all go separate ways and the whole process starts again. Frustrating!

@tiggr_ But why rematch research after every game ,if the mach full of players make them play in every game rather than separates them after game ends ,i believe this will fix the bot problem a lot

@tiggr_ Surely the system isn’t working to group players together, I can search one after another endlessly finding lobbies with multiple players all waiting for there game to fill which ultimately will end with half bots/players, shouldn’t all those waiting be put into one full lobby?